Last Sunday, Andrew Stock and more than half (around 100) of the Brisbane Destiny Church [whose website has been pulled offline] walked out of church. This is nothing exceptional in itself, not least of all, it would seem, in less sensible denominations. And not a few have interpreted this action as a sign of courage and integrity, applauding Stock as one who at least has ‘the guts to stand up to the Tamaki machine’. Among the many things that I find most disturbing about this story, however, is today’s report that ‘new pastors have [already] been appointed to run Brisbane’s Destiny Church’ (an outcrop of Brian Tamaki’s Destiny Church in New Zealand).
Is this a sign of a ministry which has failed to foster maturity among the members of God’s flock which remain? And/or is this yet another example that bolsters the claim that one of the markers of a cult is an unwillingness – or inability – to be ‘community’ without a ‘dynamic’ personality at the helm, one who has ‘strong leadership qualities and the ability to cast vision’? Possibly, though I’m in no position to really know.
Contrast Destiny’s pastoral search model with something I posted a while back from Richard Lischer about Lutherans:
‘Lutherans fill their vacancies more deliberately than any of the churches in Christendom. Vacant congregations go months without thinking about choosing a new leader, and pastors, once they have received a call, may sit on it for additional months before hatching a decision. The time isn’t used for negotiating more favorable terms; it is simply filled with prayer and dormancy. The President-elect of the United States names a Cabinet faster than the smallest Lutheran congregation picks a pastor, because Lutherans consider the latter process far more important. All is left to prayer and the brooding of the Spirit, and everyone knows the Spirit always works slowly’. – Richard Lischer, Open Secrets: A Memoir of Faith and Discovery, 220.
Perhaps it’s a good time to recall some of PT Forsyth’s advice on ‘How To Help Your Minister’.
Either way, it seems that the sovereign Lord still walks unhampered – and strangely – among the golden lampstands …
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“Everyone knows the spirit always works slowly”?
This line turned my head in interest; is it ironic? Am I missing the joke?
I should think most believers would assent that the spirit works however it pleases. We are in the midst of a revelatory faith (see Kierkegaard, Aquinas, or another philosophy/theologian of their mettle on the subject), and while we must be receptive to understanding, no one calls the shots on when but the spirit.
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Hey Hannah. “… no one calls the shots on when but the spirit”. I’m definitely with you here. But I wonder whether, within the Christian doctrine of God, there isn’t an important connection between the doctrine of divine aseity that you are alluding to, and the biblical theme of divine patience. I think I would want to go so far as to say that just as you can cash the former out by saying something like “the spirit works however it pleases”, so you can also cash it out with reference to God’s patience with the world. If we worked this idea out a bit further, following the latter theme within scripture, I think we might see that talk of divine patience is functioning as a way not of constricting divine freedom, but rather of highlighting it, by emphasizing that God does not conform to our timetables or expectations.
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Oh, absolutely. I think immediately of Psalm 25’s closing lines:
Wait on the LORD;
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart;
Wait, I say, on the LORD!
But to say the spirit always works slowly, paired with the qualifier “everyone knows,” shocked me a little, I guess (providing, naturally, it’s not meant with ironic overtones). I certainly didn’t know that. All the fire imagery used to demonstrate God’s spirit, in the Old Testament as well as New, suggests such a burning, consuming, flame-like element of the spirit, that it makes me wonder what we have intellectually turned the spirit into today.
Sorry for the rabbit-trail off your post’s main topic, and thanks for the reply.
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